body roll transcript
body roll transcript
Transcript
Austin: Say mic test a couple times Ryan.
Ryan: Mic test a couple times. Mic test a couple times.
Austin: Alright
Austin: Hello Youtube. My name is Austin Jones. I’m one of the team drivers here for Rolling Garage. Today we’re gonna try something new. We’re gonna start a new series talking about some of the new products, our personal cars and some of the team driver’s builds and how unique they are and what settings are different. Today’s guest is a very special friend of ours, an RG team driver and an ex-professional drifter Mr. Ryan Kado.
Ryan: What’s up Youtube
Austin: Alright so tell us a bit about yourself Ryan; some of your past in drifting and RC experiences. Some people may remember you from your sharking lot days?
Ryan: Yes, I’ve done a lot of drifting in my life from Formula Drift to dicking around in parking lots to RC cars for quite some time so..
Austin: You did a bit of buggy racing growing up as well?
Ryan: Yeah, RC buggy racing I did at Cap City RC in Sacramento RIP that place was lit. A lot of people from the buggy
days are still driving and drifting here too.
Austin: It’s cool to see some of the racer guys get into the RC drift scene and try both. It keeps them fresh they say and teaches them some new skills about counter steering. And now you’re here playing with what appears to be a frankenstein and a Addiction S15 with a Purple Haze livery. What is Purple Haze? Are you a Jimmy Hendrix fan or what’s going on?
Ryan: I am but also this is a drift team I was invited to by my brother Brandon and he created this body, painted it and gave it to me as a gift so I can take zero credit for its beauty but it’s pretty awesome.
Austin: Yeah it’s a really nice paint job and I think your dad is on the team and your son is on the team as well?
Ryan: He’s working his way on the team. Maybe by the time this video airs he’ll be there. We’ll see.
Austin: He’s gotta earn his stripes and that’s really cool. And so what is Kado’s Asian Grill? What’s going on with that?
Ryan: That’s just a little family business we got going on that we like to rep on the cars and it also looks pretty cool with the japanese vibes.
Austin: And so you guys run a food truck that sometimes comes to Rolling Garage for events, correct?
Ryan: Oh yeah definitely. They like to come out here and support the big events where we have a lot of drivers that need to eat and when...I shouldn’t say seat time but transmitter time is the first thing on the menu and they’re out there servin’ up the chicken when they get hungry.
Austin: That’s right they do a bit of both and it was really cool to see Brandon and Edwin at finals serving all of us. They served us the whole weekend.
Ryan: Oh yeah I wasn’t able to make it unfortunately but it does sound like it was pretty cool and they were cookin’ up a
storm. They were telling me they were super busy so…sounds like everyone was having a good time.
Austin: It’s cool that the family is into it and it’s not just you getting away from the family, coming to the shop.
Ryan: Oh definitely a good way to get together. If you have kids or if you’re looking for something to do with the family this is a great way to hang out, work on the cars, drive together, experience something new, make friends. So if you’re in the area, come out and check out Rolling Garage because it’s a little hidden gem. You might find yourself staying here ‘til 2am going where’d the time go?
Austin: Yeah. Alright so let’s check things out underneath the body what’s going on here?
Ryan: Ah yes Austin. It appears to be a Yokomo platform? Base platform?
Ryan: So this car was built mainly out of spare parts and the deck is from a YD-2S, the YD-2S Plus actually so it doesn’t have a top deck. It just has these side rails to give it some rigidity similar to like the RDX now.
Austin: Interesting.
Ryan: And the battery as you can see is mounted up very high.
Austin: The Gens Ace battery by the way which sponsors all of our team drivers. Very cool of them. Mounted very high but it’s
still in the traditional spot, is that correct?
Ryan: Right exactly so this may be the first thing you notice because this is pretty uncommon with many other chassis where you’ll see the battery
down low or even underneath the motor or gearbox.
Austin: Yeah it seems to be more of a trend these days to move the battery back so he’s keeping it still in the center but raising it…how much do you have there? It looks like 60+?
Ryan: It’s 70mm standoffs on there so
Austin: cheese
Ryan: It’s somewhere around there with the little piece of carbon here.
Austin: And that’s a custom chassis you had cut up, correct?
Ryan: Yeah just another parts bin old deck.
Austin: And that’s kind of part of RC drifting. Yeah there is fabricated parts but if you really want something unique it is doing it on your own.
Ryan: That’s right. I like to call them novelty chassis right like this car wasn’t necessarily built to win RC drifting competitions, although it was built to be able to jam and train with those cars, the idea behind this car was to give a more realistic look and feel to the drifting so you have more of a feeling of weight shifting in the car and traction against the tires in all four corners.
Austin: So you’re getting away from the cookie cutter traditionally saw driving style and having your own essentially?
Ryan: Yeah I mean basically the ideology behind the chassis is not necessarily to have something that’s competitive but to have something that’s just more fun to drive and brings enjoyment to see going around the track.
Austin: Because we’re all just doing our own version of fun essentially.
Ryan: Exactly
Austin: So what do you have going on in the front? I see some cantilever suspension. What is this?
Ryan: Right so we mentioned this was a parts bin build. I didn’t have a front bulkhead or steering…rack or anything laying around so this is a nice solution because it has a direct drive setup which houses the servo in the front bulkhead and what’s unique about this setup is that is does like you said has the cantilever shock mounting position so.
Austin: So you’re going for more of an inboard position, creating a bit more roll for the front end of the chassis, correct?
Ryan: Well the way it’s helping me create more roll and weight shift is it’s allowing me to run the very low motion ratio by having these adjustable links mounted fairly far inboard. More than you would normally see on more competitive chassis and that just allows the car to move up and down with more travel and move more freely.
Austin: Interesting and you’re using a Yokomo spring with?
Ryan: So these are just plastic Reve D RDX shocks just assembled to the manual so stock plastic shocks.
Austin: And stock pistons internally?
Ryan: Mhmm just totally stock. The springs are also stock Yokomo springs.
Austin: Now are you running oil inside or are they dry? I know a dry shock
Ryan: Yep this setup has no oil in the front or rear shocks so totally dry.
Austin: So no resistance or extra dampening from the oil going for the most active
Ryan: As much range of motion as possible with as little resistance in the suspension movement as possible.
Austin: Very cool
Ryan: So it may be a, or it is much more dramatic and exaggerated suspension movement than a real car but it’s meant to give
the same sensation that you would get by seeing a Formula D style or a competition style drift car squatting and rolling versus your more street car which is kind of just gliding on the road.
Austin: And having more kinetic energy being lost through the suspension or applied,
not lost but being applied through the suspension.
Ryan: Mainly just transferred to different corners of the car more accurately rather than being evenly distributed. You can now like pinpoint
where the energy of the car is going
Austin: right
Ryan: Using the shifting weight which is basically…which is facilitated by the suspension setup and the chassis setup.
Austin: Got you. And creating a high center of gravity with the high battery and the Shark front end also has a high servo. That’s kind of
Ryan: Yeah this honestly is just a win-win-win. It puts the servo up high, it puts the shocks up high, has a decent bit of weight to it and it really just kind of gives me everything I want to have weight shifting in the front end and also a lot of adjustability because having the car in this setup with this much of an exaggerated motion can be fairly hard to balance the chassis and make it actually driveable so this setup helps me do that.
Austin: Yeah before we leave we have a few standoffs and Reve D knuckles it looks like. Do you…are you increasing the roll with these standoffs? Is that the goal or are you increasing the roll center?
Ryan: It’s changing the roll center and it’s allowing the suspension to move in more of a arcing radius which will promote rolling
in the chassis rather than pitching.
Austin: Interesting. Alright before we leave the front end, what is the alignment?
Ryan: So it’s still pretty standard alignment even with all this crazy stuff going on. It’s about 6 degrees of caster, 10 degrees negative camber and
2 degrees of toe out per side so pretty standard alignment setup. You can see the ackerman. It’s not quite 0 but it’s not very wide either.
Austin: And how do you feel about bump steer? Do you have any bump steer?
Ryan: Try and minimize it. There’s a little bit of bump steer. There’s always going to be so you kind of want it to go in the right
direction which I think is just a preference depending on what you want the car to do.
Austin: Right, each one’s driving characteristic…each person’s driving characteristic is gonna be different and they will use bump steer to their liking.
Ryan: mhmm
Austin: So talking about alignment, let’s move back to the rear alignment. What do you have going on back here?
Ryan: So again, pretty standard alignment in the rear with negative 5 camber and toe in is around 0.5 degrees toe in. The pills are 4 in in rear and 5 in in the front so it’s just that one…difference, that one value difference.
Austin: So we have suspension block B down here. That’s an interesting setup choice, why?
Ryan: So this car actually originally came with the long stroke arm and I think the rear suspension block is actually more closer to A on
the YD-2S but the reason that I chose to keep the long stroke arm and the smaller suspension blocks, specifically the B, is it matches the front so the amount of roll based on the width of the sus blocks will be the same and also having the narrower sus block with a longer arm will also be more conducive to creating roll versus having a wider sus mount and a shorter arm where it will not wanna roll as easily.
Austin: So you’re playing with the leverage and I see another leverage factor. What are these shock mounts you have attached here?
Ryan: Right so these are pretty cool. These are servo horns that are drilled out to mount into the stock shock mounting positions of the lower arm and then it moves that mount position very far inboard to get a really low motion ratio which is gonna allow the car to travel through the stroke very easily and freely with a lot of range of motion and we also get a lot of linear movement and a long stroke using a Tamiya CC-01 rock crawler spring.
Austin: Interesting choice coming from another rig that you own.
Ryan: Another novelty chassis yep.
Austin: So we’re talking about parts bin chassis and this is it. RDX bodies as well? Correct?
Ryan: Yep. Zero oil, plastic RDX shock bodies and the CC-01 crawler springs.
Austin: Now have you considered doing a longer range suspension or are you ok with the shorter range?
Ryan: This is as much range as I can get. I’m going from the control or you know the adjustable arms are hitting the shock tower, all the way dropping to where the shock is hitting the suspension mount so this is literally maxed out as far as travel is concerned.
Austin: So doing a long travel setup or a different shock wouldn’t really benefit you necessarily. Ryan: I’m not even reaching the potential that the shock could travel because of the limiting factors of the chassis.
Austin: I see, I see. So going back to that suspension block, it does have its pros and cons.
Ryan: In this case mainly pros.
Austin: Yeah, yeah I see the reasoning behind it but I was just thinking about it, it’s more the shock placement being so close with this offset.
Ryan: Right, right it all kind of coincidentally works out well. You need that..if I had a wider sus mount I wouldn’t be able to get this motion ratio of the rear shock mounting position so it all works out very well. Kind of harmoniously
Austin: And so what transmission do you have here?
Ryan: Ah yeah so again, another parts bin grab. This is a YD-2R gearbox from the rear motor YD-2.
Austin: So traditionally the motor would be on the backside of the suspension.
Ryan: About where the ESC is. So this gearbox has been flipped around 180’d and it’s had the top mounting point sanded off to put the motor directly on top which is gonna obviously create some roll, create some pitching action with that weight kind of being able to tip being in that higher position similar to the battery.
Austin: So all supporting mods with the high center of gravity.
Ryan: Correct. Lots of… lots of moving things upward is the trend.
Austin: Well it’s a really cool car. I know some of the guys call this “demon roll”. Do you have a term for it? Coined word? Anything?
Ryan: That’s how I first heard of it from Mitch. He turned me onto this from another Youtube channel called Drift Mania Revelry which is run by a dude named Mikasu and he started these as far as I know…started uploading videos of these chassis builds and cars doing very realistic suspension
movements that were kind of exaggerated so.
Austin: Which D-Like has been in the simulation realm but it’s cool to see the Yokomos, some of these older proven chassis being put back to use for the same idea. Realism.
Ryan: Exactly. Just goes to show you don’t necessarily need a D-Like or an LTS chassis because at the end of the day it’s all the same things. You’re just putting weight in different places, making different angles of different arms and that’s all the effect really is so.
Austin: Roll center and physics, beautiful thing.
Ryan: Physics, exactly.
Austin: Alright so last thing, let’s talk about the electronic choices here. You have Reve D with a Revox.
Ryan. Mhmm so those two choices were not parts bin. Those were definitely conscious purchases. I put that setup in every car and it’s just a preference. To me, it drives just…it gives the feeling through the transmitter that I would expect to feel through the steering wheel if that makes sense.
Austin: And so I’ve heard some drivers they like the Revox as well because the Futaba with all the tunability and everything can be a bit overwhelming. This is set and forget. Is there a preset you prefer?
Ryan: Oh yeah definitely. I definitely enjoy the simplicity of tuning the Reve D software. If I have too much tunability I’ll get lost in that so the preset options are nice and I run preset number 5 on all my chassis as well so they just got it right with that one.
Austin: And so now you have a Yokomo Type R 10.5 paired to what ESC down there?
Ryan: Yep Yokomo 10.5 and it’s the Yokomo RPX-II ESC, which, my personal favorite ESC and probably because it’s the one I started with so I’m just sticking to what’s familiar and easy to transfer my tunes. Copypasta
Austin: Sake of ease for Ryan Kado. Well, beautiful chassis. We can cut over to some driving footage now and thank you for taking the time and talking to me.
Ryan: Of course man any time.